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    So... Are we still YES WE CANING this yr. I don't see a lot of other choice besides the Obvious RON PAUL but that's not going to happen. In four yrs. if we're still having elections or at least going through the motions maybe Rand Paul.
    I really am Curious though, where is everyone at now? I voted Obama last time and I'm not voting Mitt Romney, so I will throw away my Vote just to support Ron Paul.


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    I'm voting Obama,
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCUMGOD13 View Post
    so I will throw away my Vote just to support Ron Paul.
    Bill Hicks once said, "I have a feeling that whoever gets to be President, after the election, they take 'em in a little room and show an angle of the Kennedy Assassination that no one has ever seen before, then ask, "Any questions?"

    I'm not entirely convinced that it happens that way, but I'm not entirely convinced that it doesn't, either. My point is, I believed in Obama before the election (his honesty, that he wants to make most Americans lives better). I also tend to believe that Ron Paul is at least honest. I disagree with some of his views, again, that's ok. But he's one guy. One guy throwing pebbles at the Corporate Superstructure is still just one guy. Even if he's President of the United States. (Hope and change Ron Paul-style doesn't look a whole lot different than Hope and Change from President Obama, really).
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    Quote Originally Posted by F-Stop View Post
    One guy throwing pebbles at the Corporate Superstructure is still just one guy. Even if he's President of the United States. (Hope and change Ron Paul-style doesn't look a whole lot different than Hope and Change from President Obama, really).
    After numerous hours watching C-SPAN and the Tennessee Channel 203 (starring the TN legislature) I can report that the Corporate Superstructure is for real and alive and well. I truly feel that the will of the American People has lost out to the almighty dollar, which ain't so mighty any more. Which says even more about our loss or power.

    OTOH, I once heard a statement that continually rings truer each day: We get the government we deserve.
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    I voted for Obama.
    I believed him. He was so genunine and his whole message was about change. I was ecstatic because my pet issue (the food system) was finally going to be addressed. Obama announced to Iowa farmers no less that GMOs would be labeled if he was elected. We thought finally, the insane corruption of the FDA and USDA would be addressed. After all what is more important than food?

    NO! not only did Obama lie about that, the first thing he does is put the most corrupt people in the chemical/drug industry (which is the industry in charge of the food system in the USA) in charge of the FDA and and industrial meat gods in charge of the USDA. This, while his own wife plants an organic garden in the yard.

    The audacity of bullshit.
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    James.....Obama is a man of change. He changed his position on almost everything he promised before he was elected.

    Our food system is slowly wrecking our health.

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    Meanwhile:

    China buys oil rights in America, China buys acreage in America to build its own cities for the Chinese under their own laws, China gets their flag flown above The American Flag right on Constitution Avenue of all places, the Empire State Building lights red to honor the Communist anniversary, Red Dawn II gets delayed over and over and has the bad guy switched to the N. Koreans (like they could ever attack mainland America), China gets approval to purchase American banks, on and on and on. See a pattern here? And to think at one time America looked down on Communism? And McCarthy, Robert Welch, Ezra Benson Taft and others, all warned us years ago of creeping Communism within our government and people shrugged it off as impossible? It’s here…just go to Wal-Mart and look around.
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    if anything, obama has proved that without real campaign finance reform, all we'll ever get are slight variations on the same corporate/military industrial complex. i still prefer the obama variation to the other options offered, but my expectation level is certainly a lot lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracko View Post
    Meanwhile:

    China buys oil rights in America, China buys acreage in America to build its own cities for the Chinese under their own laws, China gets their flag flown above The American Flag right on Constitution Avenue of all places, the Empire State Building lights red to honor the Communist anniversary, Red Dawn II gets delayed over and over and has the bad guy switched to the N. Koreans (like they could ever attack mainland America), China gets approval to purchase American banks, on and on and on. See a pattern here? And to think at one time America looked down on Communism? And McCarthy, Robert Welch, Ezra Benson Taft and others, all warned us years ago of creeping Communism within our government and people shrugged it off as impossible? It's here;just go to Wal-Mart and look around.
    There is so much truth here; so much truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracko View Post
    Meanwhile:

    China buys oil rights in America, China buys acreage in America to build its own cities for the Chinese under their own laws, China gets their flag flown above The American Flag right on Constitution Avenue of all places, the Empire State Building lights red to honor the Communist anniversary, Red Dawn II gets delayed over and over and has the bad guy switched to the N. Koreans (like they could ever attack mainland America), China gets approval to purchase American banks, on and on and on. See a pattern here? And to think at one time America looked down on Communism? And McCarthy, Robert Welch, Ezra Benson Taft and others, all warned us years ago of creeping Communism within our government and people shrugged it off as impossible? It’s here…just go to Wal-Mart and look around.
    Other than it being a brutal repressive dictatorship, is there anything about China that's even remotely "communist" any more?

    North Korea is probably the last country on earth that can arguable be called communist, and it is a pretty good representation of where that philosophy leads outside of thought experiments and academic treatises.

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