black president (the WHAT DOES OBAMA MEAN thread)

[# 9]

I think gypsy is trolling a bit, though maybe it's just on a subconscious level...

The fact that Obama is black (or at least half-black) is not a small deal. If elected, he breaks a barrier that until now seemed unthinkable, for different reasons for different people.

Ah, if Obama is half-black then he would also be half-white.

So Obama would be the first half-white President? Doesn't sound as meaningful now does it? Gypsy is projecting as much as Obama is.

[jeffx]

Ah, if Obama is half-black then he would also be half-white.

So Obama would be the first half-white President? Doesn't sound as meaningful now does it? Gypsy is projecting as much as Obama is.

are you for real?

[James]

Half-white is black in this country--at least in the minds of most voters.


The race factor is big in this election because for the first time, white people have a chance to face their own racism, privately, in the voting booth.

Pollsters remind us all the time about how people lie about their own true feelings about race. That's why they ask voters if race is a factor to people they know instead of asking them straight out.

Person to person, I think there is no comparison between McCain and Obama in terms of intelligence, leadership, clarity of vision, education and personal intent. But race is what matters in the end here.

[# 9]

Person to person, I think there is no comparison between McCain and Obama in terms of intelligence, leadership, clarity of vision, education and personal intent. But race is what matters in the end here.

There is a large gap in experience. Race will matter to many people, but to many people experience will matter more.

[~Rumormonger~]

having grown up with a white mother, an indonesian stepfather and white grandparents, in the only state in america where whites are not a majority, his self-identification as "black" took a while.

but closeness also clouds perspective, and seen through the lens of american (and world) history, the symbolic fact of the first black president would pretty much trump all other aspects of the presidency.

'Just being a stickler and pointing out that there are several states in America where whites are not a majority and there have also been several black (and plenty of non-white) Presidents in America.

[TennesseeValuesAuthority]

Ah, if Obama is half-black then he would also be half-white.

So Obama would be the first half-white President? Doesn't sound as meaningful now does it? Gypsy is projecting as much as Obama is.

Yeah, right. Try checking the "Half-White" box on your application form to Cherokee Country Club. Let me know how that goes for you.

[metulj]

Yeah, right. Try checking the "Half-White" box on your application form to Cherokee Country Club. Let me know how that goes for you.

Regrets to Groucho Marx: Cherokee would let Obama set one foot in the parking lot.

[promateur]

[QUOTE=HailBop;259648]
"I just gotta take a last parting shot at this:
you're citing two examples of historic milestones that WERE all about race."


Dr. King was more about race than religion, but more about politics and social norms than either. And if you think Jackie Robinson was all about race, you know next to thing about baseball.

[promateur]

And, in point of simple gratitude, thanks to Gyp and Scott for stirring this debate.

[# 9]

Yeah, right. Try checking the "Half-White" box on your application form to Cherokee Country Club. Let me know how that goes for you.

According to Jesse Jackson the problem isn't Cherokee Country Club. Jesse says Obama isn't "black" enough.

Instead of this faux debate of whether white people will vote for Obama why isn't anyone looking at what happens when black people don't vote for Obama?

So if black people don't vote for Obama is that racist?

Gypsy, Scott?