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Deanna's Daydreamer
08-12-2009, 10:04 PM
AP source: Obama officials to tour Michigan prison
By TIM MARTIN, Associated Press Writer Tim Martin, Associated Press Writer
30 mins ago

LANSING, Mich. – Obama administration officials plan on Thursday to tour a soon-to-be-shuttered Michigan state prison considered an option to hold terrorism suspects now detained at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.

Two government officials said representatives of the Defense, Justice and Homeland Security departments would visit a state prison in Standish. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the visit.

An Obama administration official said the visit was intended to gather information about the facility and no decisions had been made about where to move the detainees. Multiple options are being considered, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the discussions.

The maximum-security prison about 145 miles northwest of Detroit and the military penitentiary at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., are among the sites being considered to house the detainees if the prison in Cuba is closed by early 2010, as ordered by President Barack Obama.

Public pressure is mounting to do something to save the Standish prison, the region's largest employer with about 340 workers. Arenac County's unemployment rate already is 17.3 percent and the prison could soon close in a round of state budget cuts.

"If Standish Max becomes vacant, the impact would be devastating," said state Rep. Tim Moore, a Republican who represents the region in the Michigan Legislature. "Arenac County would be a ghost town."

California, Pennsylvania and possibly some other states have talked with Michigan officials about paying to house some of their prisoners in Standish. That appears to be the preferred option, but many in the area would be open to taking Guantanamo prisoners if everything else fails.

Local residents want the prison to remain open, but some are skittish about the prospects of suspected terrorists being housed in their small, relatively rural town.

"There's a difference between a homegrown criminal and a jihadist," said Dave Munson, a Standish restaurant and bar owner. "I think we're going to be a target. They like 'soft' targets so they're going to come after us if their people are there."

Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm has said she would rather take in prisoners from other states, such as California, than the Guantanamo detainees.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_guantanamo_detainees/print
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The Obama administration risks the first HUGE MISTAKE in doing this. The former GITMO prisoners will file tons of lawsuits? And there will be lawyers galore who will bring them to the United States Court systems!

This is a HUGE mistake if it goes forward! We'd actually be better off to give them all over to the ICC (International Criminal Court) and demand justice from these lilly soft Ivory Tower judges in Europe!

We already HAVE

an Air Force Base in Diego Garcia which we can make into a new facility!

http://www.answers.com/topic/diego-garcia

Hell, we can TRANSFER all these terrorists to an AFB in Lakenheath, England!

http://www.lakenheath.af.mil/

This newest thoughtline from the Obama administration is a HUGE mistake, and opens the United States up to a crop of liberal judges in the North who will grant these war on terror suspects a HUGE AMOUNT of freedom that Americans keep for their own.

This is the FIRST HUGE mistake of an Obama administration!

Call your senator now.

KO
08-12-2009, 10:17 PM
The Obama administration risks the first HUGE MISTAKE in doing this. The former GITMO prisoners will file tons of lawsuits? And there will be lawyers galore who will bring them to the United States Court systems!
Guantanamo detainees already have access to US Courts. In fact, several cases filed by Guantanamo detainees have already been the subject of US Supreme Court rulings. Dude, please pay attention.

spinetingler
08-12-2009, 10:26 PM
The former GITMO prisoners will file tons of lawsuits?

I don't know. Will they?

Deanna's Daydreamer
08-12-2009, 10:27 PM
You are not seeing what would happen if we move them to American soil, KO.

The very REASON... why they are at GITMO right NOW?

Is the reason they were never brought to a place like Leavenworth

or a Colorado Supermax before now!

You've spent too much time chasing ambulances in Knoxville, dude.

Bringing these terrorists into American soil is a LEGAL DEAL... that you should already know about, man.

It is a HUGE MISTAKE........... to bring them here.

spinetingler
08-12-2009, 10:29 PM
You are not seeing what would happen if we move them to American soil, KO.

Yeah, go ahead and give the attorney legal advice, markie.

Hi Top
08-12-2009, 10:30 PM
The 1389th idiotic post by DD?

Raincrow
08-13-2009, 01:14 AM
The 1389th idiotic post by DD?

He ain't stoppin' there, brother! Didn't you see his next post? The one with this cautionary tale?



"...Word to your mother. And if you are cheating on her?

It is just a matter of time.... until she catches you."
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James
08-13-2009, 08:47 AM
The very REASON... why they are at GITMO right NOW?

Is the reason they were never brought to a place like Leavenworth

or a Colorado Supermax before now!
The reason they were held in Gitmo was to keep them away from american justice system because the charges wouldn't hold up for a majority of them. THe "worst of the worst" weren't even held in Gitmo until years later. AND, as the military has said itself, there are many innocent people being held prisoner there, should have never been arrested in the first place and they are still being held. Why? Because they were so mistreated the gov is afraid if let go, they might sue or worse, be really angry and do some violence.


Truth is, most or all are so traumatized, they will need psych care just to function.

Raincrow
08-13-2009, 12:36 PM
I heard that once they're on US soil, Obama is going to make them citizens and give them all Cadillacs and drunk white coeds shanghaied from the beaches of "Girls Gone Wild." It's true! I heard it somewhere!

Boris
08-13-2009, 12:43 PM
I heard that once they're on US soil, Obama is going to make them citizens and give them all Cadillacs and drunk white coeds shanghaied from the beaches of "Girls Gone Wild." It's true! I heard it somewhere!


This will kill downtown Standish.

Raincrow
08-13-2009, 12:44 PM
This will kill downtown Standish.

For Miles around.

Hildegard
08-13-2009, 01:02 PM
I heard that once they're on US soil, Obama is going to make them citizens and give them all Cadillacs and drunk white coeds shanghaied from the beaches of "Girls Gone Wild." It's true! I heard it somewhere!

Please, give up. The Justice Dept will never enter a contract with "Camp Raincrow's Patented International Detention Center." The only reason those guys from Justice showed up for the tour was the promised romp with the Camp Raincrow Dancers.

The_Editor
08-13-2009, 01:50 PM
Please, give up. The Justice Dept will never enter a contract with "Camp Raincrow's Patented International Detention Center." The only reason those guys from Justice showed up for the tour was the promised romp with the Camp Raincrow Dancers.


Dammit! Now what am I supposed to do with all these red-white-n-blue tasseled pasties Raincrow ordered?

You better find some use for them Raincrow, cause I'm getting paid whether you use em for the CRPIDC or not!

Raincrow
08-13-2009, 02:01 PM
Dammit! Now what am I supposed to do with all these red-white-n-blue tasseled pasties Raincrow ordered?

You better find some use for them Raincrow, cause I'm getting paid whether you use em for the CRPIDC or not!
Are you telling me your agent didn't call you?

trancendyce
08-13-2009, 02:02 PM
Dammit! Now what am I supposed to do with all these red-white-n-blue tasseled pasties Raincrow ordered?

You better find some use for them Raincrow, cause I'm getting paid whether you use em for the CRPIDC or not!

we could always have a huge obama festival. you know, for america.

fluffy
08-13-2009, 03:21 PM
we could always have a huge obama festival. you know, for america.

nah, then they would have to exchange the pasties for ones with images of chairman mao on them. too much trouble.

The_Editor
08-13-2009, 03:24 PM
nah, then they would have to exchange the pasties for ones with images of chairman mao on them. too much trouble.

I have a case of those too, from Raincrow's failed excursion to China back in the 70's.

fluffy
08-13-2009, 03:28 PM
I have a case of those too, from Raincrow's failed excursion to China back in the 70's.

so THATS who convinced nixon to go.

Raincrow
08-13-2009, 03:28 PM
I have a case of those too, from Raincrow's failed excursion to China back in the 70's.

Tater says she needs the pasties for a TV satellite dish.

CAFKIA
08-13-2009, 03:36 PM
Uncle Daddy, tell me another story about the 10 feet tall, bullet proof, fearless, genius, Islamic savages that no prison can hold. Pleaseeeeee!

The_Editor
08-13-2009, 03:44 PM
Tater says she needs the pasties for a TV satellite dish.

If she wants them, she needs to ask for them herself.

trancendyce
08-13-2009, 03:47 PM
nah, then they would have to exchange the pasties for ones with images of chairman mao on them. too much trouble.


I have a case of those too, from Raincrow's failed excursion to China back in the 70's.

what an excellent idea... one pastie for each point. politically hot and a bit kinky too.

thedisobedients
08-13-2009, 06:31 PM
Obama's the president? Thought he wasn't going to win a single county in Tennessee, not even one...

Tater the Cave Girl
08-13-2009, 10:23 PM
If she wants them, she needs to ask for them herself.

pastez!!!! taterz tittez hang too lowz, needs pastez!!!!! saturite dish make noyz an fun timz wif pastez!!! pastez maks life happez

The_Editor
08-13-2009, 11:11 PM
pastez!!!! taterz tittez hang too lowz, needs pastez!!!!! saturite dish make noyz an fun timz wif pastez!!! pastez maks life happez

Good Tater! I'll get you all the pasties you want.

Here's just some of the styles you can choose from (and that Daddy Raincrow owes me for).


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/bluereenie/PastySelection.jpg

rikki
08-13-2009, 11:59 PM
I'd spay a whole litter of Hello Kitties
Just to see those pasties on yr tittties

Deanna's Daydreamer
08-14-2009, 01:30 AM
There is NO REASON

to bring terrorists onto American soil.....

especially when we have numerous places OUTSIDE of America to keep them.

The base in Diego Garcia, or the base in Lakenheath would work just fine.

We simply DO open up numerous challenges when we bring them into America.

Once again? You get what you get from the leftists here on this board-- they creatively disdain you. And some of you are quite GOOD AT IT. You can be sarcastic, and be witty; you can be cutting, and be funny. But like many leftists all over America?

You're quite short on solutions.

Not quite there on logical ANSWERS.

I admit I am a conservative on LEFTIST DOMINATED BOARDS. I know that; I have dealt with it for 8 years now. In the end, did the leftist who made a cool and cruel joke actually WIN over people? Tell me because I'd like to know.

And know that outSIDE of Knoxville? In Tennessee?

The Far Left is just about as welcome as a turd in a punchbowl.

Actually, the TURD would be less abrasive.... just so ya know.

The_Editor
08-14-2009, 01:34 AM
I'd spay a whole litter of Hello Kitties
Just to see those pasties on yr tittties
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/bluereenie/2940687082_bc0f8d7aff.jpg

CAFKIA
08-14-2009, 07:59 AM
There is NO REASON

to bring terrorists onto American soil.....

especially when we have numerous places OUTSIDE of America to keep them.

The base in Diego Garcia, or the base in Lakenheath would work just fine.

We simply DO open up numerous challenges when we bring them into America.

Once again? You get what you get from the leftists here on this board-- they creatively disdain you. And some of you are quite GOOD AT IT. You can be sarcastic, and be witty; you can be cutting, and be funny. But like many leftists all over America?

You're quite short on solutions.

Not quite there on logical ANSWERS.

I admit I am a conservative on LEFTIST DOMINATED BOARDS. I know that; I have dealt with it for 8 years now. In the end, did the leftist who made a cool and cruel joke actually WIN over people? Tell me because I'd like to know.

And know that outSIDE of Knoxville? In Tennessee?

The Far Left is just about as welcome as a turd in a punchbowl.

Actually, the TURD would be less abrasive.... just so ya know.
To have a solution, one must first have a corresponding problem. Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Timothy McVeigh, John Gotti, and Gawd knows who all else have been held in American prisons. They did not like prison or want to be there and the last two on my list had plenty of supporters who would rather they not be in prison and yet, prison is where they stayed. The problems I see are fear and ignorance in the right-wing, conservatives who clearly don't understand the word or the concept, and the elevation of mediocrity and ignorance to desirable goals. You're right. I have absolutely no solutions for those problems. The only problem with housing terrorists on American soil is the bedwetting fear that the reich-wing has only been able to sell to itself. It is YOUR problem, you solve it.

My bed is dry.

thedisobedients
08-14-2009, 05:08 PM
Think it has more to do with the fact that your ramblings are so "plucking" silly, with their goofy doublespaced layout, not to mention your demented tendency to repeat anything you hear that confirms your most paranoid fears... you don't know just how hard it is to take you seriously. You could be talking about, I don't know, the average temperature outside and it would still be mundane at best.

Work with a guy just like you - can't get a date, can't get laid, can't even hold a conversation. I suspect he's got Aspergers... maybe you do too.

Raincrow
08-14-2009, 05:24 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/bluereenie/PastySelection.jpg

Those are some nice party hats. We need something else to give them some perspective.

PrinceWince
08-14-2009, 05:29 PM
Those are some nice party hats. We need something else to give them some perspective.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/8/9692744_61b56213cb.jpg?v=0