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Deanna's Daydreamer
04-24-2008, 07:09 AM
I as I told you I've been watching presidential politics for 35 years-- going all the way back to Carter Versus Ford when I was a little kid. Yes, I KNOW the ways that democrats win, and I KNOW the ways they fail. I've SEEN them fail.... 13 of the last 15 elections.

I know how ya'll lose; the question IS... will you listen to me how you can WIN?

There's nothing more dangerous that a rogue conservative attempting to clue some leftists IN. First off, you have got yourselves in a pickle with Obama. As you might imagine? I have a way OUT for you. But let's get real about him first; he is BLOWN. It might have been one thing if the public knew... really KNEW... WHO HE WAS... for 20 years; uh, they don't, and further more the reverend Jeremiah Wright (whom I have noticed has been SILENCED by the ultra left recently, and might I say a bit too late) has blown his career. It would have been difficult to run him ANYWAY.... democrats. You can atleast have that knowledge! That even in a fine world, it would have been difficult to run him down a 72% non hispanic caucasoid nation.

Sadly, the ONE issue... of his race, and his racial take on things? It was a three torpedo hit to the midline hull of the good ship Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M-kD0QdRJk

Listen to me democrats. Even STUPID caucasion voters-- people who sometimes do not vote and people who really do not CARE about politics? Even the DUMB ones can understand the reverend saying God Damn America! I hate it for the guy-- to be so harshly judged by the company he kept-- but in America it MATTERS. And Americans are remarkably good at putting things together. Here's what you democrats need to do: You need to line up behind Hillary from this moment forward, and do it in all due haste. It would have been difficult for Obama to beat McCain......... WITHOUT ever having his pastor say the stuff he said! But NOW? Ohhhhhh, talk about fodder for the RIGHT?

And the sad reality is that the silly idiots in the far leftist press and media are STILL trying to do damage control! Not realising... that in American politics? "It's far better to run the devil you know than the devil you don't know." The modern political left thought they had found the guy who would save the nation; what they found was a 46 year old ONE TERM senator with a few books, very little change in his past, a wife who said things that only a political beginner would say,

and then we have Obama himSELF...... ladies and gents. Speaking to the ultra left out in Cali. "Well, you know those dumbass white boys and girls! Those dolts live with their guns and God and think that anyone not like them is just an illegal alien." Fill in the blank. The sad reality for Obama in Pennsylvania.... is that Pennsylvania looks a lot like America! The editor of the Memphis Flyer said he lived up there, and that the general notion was that you had Philadelphia on one end, and Pittsburg on the OTHER END,

and ALABAMA in the middle!

Guess what? Hillary flies her plane far better over Alabama than Obama does, and that ain't gonna change in November! Democrats keep on thinking that ideals change America; but the reality... is that America changes slower than they think it WILL! EVEN... when they win. I saw an AP article where the last quote they had was from some citizen who said that "the Clintons are from the past; I have seen that and I want something new."

That KIND OF VOTER...

is the kind who will watch as John McCain takes the oath of office.

Like it or not, Bill Clinton is the FATHER of your party right now, democrats.

Keep in mind that almost no person alive can recall the last time a democrat WON an election, and then was RE-ELECTED for a SECOND TERM....

OTHER THAN the people who saw BILL CLINTON actually do it!

Carter was never elected to a second term. Lyndon Baynes Johnson inherited the presidency from JFK and won his ONE attempt to get the presidency in 1964. JFK won the presidency in 1960, and was killed in office. You've got to go farther than that in the past to FIND.... a democrat... who WON an election, and then WON his re-election. Bill Clinton is the GRANDPA of your party! He's the Charlton Heston of the democratic party; he is the GUY WHO ONCE WAS KING.

And instead of adulation? He has the far left screaming for the election of a one term black male senator from ILLINOIS who has a racist pastor. Democrats should be listening to Bill very closely as to what they should do, and instead?

You've got every far left idiot endorsing Obama! When the right nominates a moderate? The LAST THING you want to do is run a far left guy! When the right nominates a far right guy? Move to the middle and take out the independents and swing voters! The modern political Left has made such disastrous mistakes in my lifetime that I have no idea why I am writing this post.... but democrats you have a MAN... who is ONSTAGE... talking to people who vote, and THIS man... has won MORE VOTES... than any democrat in modern history.

I suggest you listen to him.

His name is William Jefferson Clinton.

If there is ANY MAN... in the ENTIRE democratic party... who knows how to WIN this election? It is him! And what is he doing? He's telling you to vote for his wife!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6VZAuVezuk

And most of the bozos in the left went for this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oGF3cyHE7M

Any dolt like Michael Moore needs to be on a couch talking to his SHRINK. You don't ask Michael Moore on how to win a presidential election;

you ask Bill Clinton how to win it.

And if you ask him? He points over to his wife:

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/women/

You've got a chance now, democrats; you've got an incredible chance.

jeffx
04-24-2008, 09:25 AM
we "leftists" are honored and humbled that such a notable "rogue conservative" as yourself would deign to offer us "dangerous" election secrets like "concede defeat to the less dynamic, business-as-usual, sellout candidate." 27 times.

i pray, for your sake, that the conservative establishment does not find out that you are leaking key election-cinching advice. your bravery is acknowledged and appreciated, sir.

and so that you are not the only one with his neck on the line, i too will now release pertinent information i have been hanging on to in the hopes that one day i would find the courage you have so generously provided me. here it is:

leftists should eschew their values and vote for mccain. that way, we all win! because being on the winning team is what really matters.

SnM
04-24-2008, 11:26 AM
we "leftists" are honored and humbled that such a notable "rogue conservative" as yourself would deign to offer us "dangerous" election secrets like "concede defeat to the less dynamic, business-as-usual, sellout candidate." 27 times.

i pray, for your sake, that the conservative establishment does not find out that you are leaking key election-cinching advice. your bravery is acknowledged and appreciated, sir.

and so that you are not the only one with his neck on the line, i too will now release pertinent information i have been hanging on to in the hopes that one day i would find the courage you have so generously provided me. here it is:

leftists should eschew their values and vote for mccain. that way, we all win! because being on the winning team is what really matters.

That was funny.


...There's nothing more dangerous that a rogue conservative attempting to clue some leftists IN...

I dunno, a champion rooster with a hurt leg and absolutely nothing to lose probably out-dangers a rogue conservative attempting pretty much anything.

Deanna's Daydreamer
04-25-2008, 07:17 AM
You SHOULD BE happy that

a conservative told you how EXACTLY you lose, Jeffx!

I just figured up that I have just seen you lose 9 of 14 elections, or else I was born AFTER you lost a FEW of them!

Let's get real... here and now, democrats. Bill Clinton, whether you like him

OR NOT....

really IS... the father of the party. He's the living embodiment of the democratic party. Carter? He's just an old fool meeting with terrorists, and he will soon be back in America with little to show for it and less from the effort.

Bill Clinton is actually THE MAN.

You guys are just a bunch of DUMBASSES... if you will not call him up and ask him how to win! He's the ONLY living democrat.... who has EVER... won re-election!

If not Bill Clinton? You leftist bozos would have to go ALL the way back to FDR.... Franklin Deleanor Roosevelt... to find a DEMOCRAT... who was ELECTED... and then RE ELECTED.

That's how far back ya gotta go.

The GOP is sitting pretty with the latest sitting president-- who beat Gore and then beat Kerry.

If Howard Dean, and Nancy Pelosi... had any SENSE AT ALL? They would be on the phone right now to Bill Clinton asking his ADVICE! "HOW... Bill... can WE.... WIN... this election!"

And he will tell you the same thing I am telling you---RUN HILLARY!

But honestly, Jeffx? I sometimes wonder why I give a damn about this forum.

And guys like you and SNM are the reason WHY.

You guys have a moment in time, and the window is closing on it.... to take this election by storm, and instead of running the OBVIOUS choice? You leftist dolts are going to go with Obama-- a man who voted ONE HUNDRED TIMES in the Illinois state legislature that he was PRESENT! Obama did not vote YES... or NO! He voted PRESENT!

So.......... his past is NOT one of change, and it is NOT one of hope!

Are you leftists STEWPID enough not to realize that the right will go straight after that?

Not only........ NOT ONLY.... is Obama too inexperienced to be president? His entire platform is a glass jaw.......... waiting to be broken. And Jeffx

Conservatives wrote the damn BOOK....... on how to break a glass jaw!

The sad reality is that you leftists have overlooked the most electable candidates in your party (John Edwards was the most electable, Hillary after him) in favor of the rock star!

And rock stars die off REAL QUICK. Here is where your entire party is TRULY AT, Jeffx.

You can choose to go with Hillary, and probably WIN IT... because of how screwed up the entire picture is........... or you can LOSE IT........... by running Obama. That is pretty much where you are at. Obama...... has.........

about as much chance........

of becoming president....... as I DO, Jeffx.

He will lose........... and he will lose badly.

He would lose even in a depression, man.

You are dreaming to think otherwise.

But ya know what? Leftists dream all the time. That is what makes them leftists.

Do you want to win? Then run Hillary DOMESTIC-- Hillary down the middle talking about health care, education, saving social security, a defensive measure towards terrorism such as border patrol, job creation, renegotiation of NAFTA, and stuff like that.

And IF you bozos on the left want to bring America BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA?

My answer to you............ is bring him ON.

Because the same Pennsylvania that you guys saw? With Obama winning a CITY, or TWO, and then winning NOTHING else?

That is________ actually_______ your electoral MAP, democrats.

Don't mind me though! I have seen democrats lose NINE of the last FOURTEEN presidential elections! Just ignore me, Tennessee democrats! I'm just an OUT OF TOWN STRANGER-- according to the Metropulse editors in Knoxville!

Pan
04-25-2008, 12:45 PM
Yawn.

jeffx
04-25-2008, 01:48 PM
okay, jester...

a) you've basically regurgitated common knowledge and mainstream media talking points. i'm not sure whose mind you think you're blowing, but it ain't anybody who's already been paying the bare minimum of attention.

b) i was initially an edwards fan, too.

c) it's not my party. i'm an independent. i vote democrat by default, and begrudgingly.

d) pick a side. either you're a hillary supporter or you're a mccain supporter. if you know anything at all about either of them, you can't be both.

e) most everyone has already voted for their candidate, including tennessee. what is it you would like us to do about it at this point?

f) if the wright thing is enough to bring barack down, then he wasn't much of a candidate to begin with.

f.5) anyone who thinks black people aren't still pissed about america's treatment of them and don't have a right to that anger is an imbecile. the only thing shocking about wright's statement is that black people haven't been screaming it en masse for decades.

f.5.1) that doesn't mean that it still couldn't critically injure obama's campaign. because america is full of imbeciles.

Deanna's Daydreamer
04-26-2008, 03:10 AM
Nice to see you are not a total left wingnut, and

I certainly CAN... decide who I want to vote for. I might vote for McCain; I might NOT. I might vote for Hillary; I might NOT. I voted for her husband in 1992 in complete outrage over GHWB saying "read my lips, no new taxes" and then increasing taxes.

Who knows? I might be so concerned about the possibility of us going into war with Iran and Pakistan by the end of McCain's term that I walk over the line. But I won't be voting for Obama. WHY? One reason is that he's too far left. Another is that his experience is TOTALLY LACKING.

The man is a FIRST TERM SENATOR. That is all he has. He has not even served ONE TERM yet. He's not ready to lead the most powerful nation on Earth.

But the Wright thing is just a fairly large part of Obama's equation in terms of who he is, who he hangs out with, what he probably believes. I decline to think that Barrack did not know the reverend's racist and anti American thoughts. I simply do not believe that Barrack did not know all about this prick.

I think Hillary should be the nominee, and IF she gets it I'd suggest that she NOT give Obama the VP position. Nancy Pelosi was right about that-- neither one should choose the other.