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Deanna's Daydreamer
04-12-2008, 07:19 AM
Obama says some voters are angry, bitter By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writer
Sat Apr 12, 3:53 AM ET
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080412/ap_on_el_pr/obama_bitter_voters&printer=1;_ylt=AinKihDfoM6pzlTJ4gl6ii1h24cA

In the midst of an assault from his rivals, a defensive Barack Obama said Friday that many working-class Americans are angry and bitter over economic inequalities and have lost faith in Washington — and, as a result, vote on the basis of other issues such as gun protections or gay marriage.

The Illinois senator's analysis of what motivates working-class voters came after chief rival Hillary Rodham Clinton accused him of looking down on such voters. Clinton rebuked Obama on Friday for similar remarks he made privately last Sunday to a group of donors in San Francisco.

"People don't vote on economic issues because they don't expect anybody is going to help them," Obama told a crowd at a Terre Haute, Ind., high school Friday evening. "So people end up voting on issues like guns and are they going to have the right to bear arms. They vote on issues like gay marriage. They take refuge in their faith and their community, and their family, and the things they can count on. But they don't believe they can count on Washington."

The Huffington Post Web site reported Friday that Obama, speaking of some Pennsylvanians' economic anxieties, told supporters at the San Francisco fundraiser: "You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years. ... And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

In Terre Haute, Obama said he did describe some voters as bitter when a donor asked why working-class voters in Pennsylvania were not getting behind his campaign.

"Well, that's not my experience," Clinton told a Drexel University crowd, describing the state's residents as resilient, optimistic and hardworking.

"Pennsylvanians don't need a president who looks down on them," she said. "They need a president who stands up for them."

Steve Schmidt, a spokesman for Republican candidate John McCain, described Obama's comments as "condescending" and "out of touch."

In Terre Haute, Obama chided McCain for not responding promptly to the home mortgage crisis and criticized Clinton for voting for a bankruptcy bill supported by credit card companies.

"No, I'm IN touch," he said. "I know exactly what's going on. People are fed up, they are angry, they're frustrated and they're bitter. And they want to see a change in Washington."

Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said Friday night, "Instead of apologizing for offending small-town America, Senator Obama chose to repeat and embrace the comments he made earlier this week."

Tucker Bounds, a spokesman for McCain, said Friday: "Only an elitist would say that people vote their values only out of frustration. ... You can't be more out of touch than that."
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I have one word for you, leftists: DISASTER.

This guy will step on his d*ck... so badly...

at some point in his debates with John McCain... that the great sucking sound you hear will be 40 million votes going to the right. He's your latest DUKAKIS. Your newest MONDALE, who actually left the country for an 'extended vacation' after the 1984 elections, folks. The guy won his home state and the TOWN... of Washington, DC. Lost every other state.

Obama would never... NEVER... have happened to the RIGHT. Remember when I told you? I told you that the right would send you a candidate that was 'well thought out' and well qualified? John McCain has been a United States Senator... for like 24 years! He will mop up the floor with Obama in a debate, leftists! HE WILL. He will make the guy look silly. But Hillary is smarter than the both of them, and NOW...

RIGHT NOW... is... THE TIME...for leftists in Pennsylvania.... to stop the disaster.

VOTE HILLARY, PENNSYLVANIA!

Have you ever thought about THIS one, Leftists? If... YOU lose this one? "McCain's an old war bird-- a fossil of Vietnam" says one of you; have you thought that he might lead us right into war with IRAN AS WELL? Then you've got war in IRAQ, Afghanistan... AND Iran... and you may as well go ahead and throw Pakistan on the bonfire, leftists! What do you have then? I got news for ya, baby;-- you could have... you COULD HAVE...

(are ya ready?)

a recipe... for WORLD WAR THREE.

This might be.... THE TIME... for FEMININE INTUITION... to save the nation.

The world's OIL... is running OUT. We've got the largest generation... in modern American history... getting ready to retire; they will need medicare and social security. More than ONE THIRD of the federal budget... is going to the national DEBT, and it is RISING! That is just to pay the INTEREST on it! Soon the foreign bankers that have American debt as part of their portfolios will begin to reJECT us.

I got news for ya:

that's a three torpedo hit, mamma... to the MIDLINE HULL... of AMERICA!

We are in serious shit, and the bozos of the left

want to run a 46 year old, one term black male senator from Illinois?

Yeah....good luck with that business model.

Scott
04-12-2008, 08:15 AM
Yeah....good luck with that business model.

Thanks

the McCain supporters are the ones that are going to need the luck.

Bomb Bomb Bomb
Bomb Bomb Iran

I really don't understand the economy

Yeah That is going to be real hard to beat lol

Ian
04-12-2008, 09:00 AM
Man, that's nothing. Did you hear what Obama said about Elena Dementieva?

spinetingler
04-12-2008, 09:21 AM
He will mop up the floor with Obama in a debate, leftists!

Well, unless they ask him about the difference between Sunni and Shia.
Unless they allow Leiberman to whisper in his ear.

Curious
04-12-2008, 04:27 PM
I'm angry and bitter that this post was moved to troublemakers.

Just another "Working Class Hero"


As soon as your born they make you feel small,
By giving you no time instead of it all,
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all,
A working class hero is something to be,
A working class hero is something to be.
They hurt you at home and they hit you at school,
They hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool,
Till you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules,
A working class hero is something to be,
A working class hero is something to be.
When they've tortured and scared you for twenty odd years,
Then they expect you to pick a career,
When you can't really function you're so full of fear,
A working class hero is something to be,
A working class hero is something to be.
Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV,
And you think you're so clever and classless and free,
But you're still fucking peasents as far as I can see,
A working class hero is something to be,
A working class hero is something to be.
There's room at the top they are telling you still,
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
If you want to be like the folks on the hill,
A working class hero is something to be.
A working class hero is something to be.
If you want to be a hero well just follow me,
If you want to be a hero well just follow me.
John Lennon

Ripshod
04-12-2008, 05:33 PM
I'm angry and bitter that this post was moved to troublemakers.

Maybe you should be angrier that your life is so vapid that you give a shit.

Curious
04-12-2008, 07:33 PM
So this is where everyone comes to cuss and smoke. Nice.

spintrep
04-13-2008, 02:21 PM
bitter??!

heh.

Deanna's Daydreamer
04-13-2008, 10:13 PM
He did great with it, and here is how I'd edit it--

only slightly, as you can read:


As soon as your born they make you feel small
By giving you no time... instead of it all--,
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all.
A working class hero is something to be?
A working class hero is something to be.
They hurt you at home and they hit you at school;
They hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool...
Till you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules!
A working class hero is something to be?
A working class hero is something to be!
When they've tortured and scared you... for twenty odd years?
Then they expect you to pick a career!
When you can't really function you're so full of fear.
A working class hero is something to be;--
A working class hero is something to be.
Keep you doped with religion... and sex and TV
And you think you're so clever and classless and free
But you're still fucking peasents as far as they see.
A working class hero is something to be.
A working class hero is something to be.
There's room at the top they are telling you still,
But first you must learn how to smile when you kill!
If you want to be like the folks on the hill?
A working class hero is something to be.
A working class hero is something to be.
If you want to be a hero well just follow me,
If you want to be a hero well just follow me.

Deanna's Daydreamer
04-13-2008, 10:33 PM
Hey Scott-- ever heard the old saying

that actions speak louder than words?

Take a look at the man... who will PROBABLY be the democratic nominee; I've never seen anything like this in my entire life. He's the ONLY man on the stage who won't put his hand over his heart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwog6E08CFU&feature=related

And of COURSE HE WON'T!

He won't because he has been sitting in the pews listening to Jeremiah Wright for 20 plus years-- the man who married him, and baptised his two daughters!

And what-- pray tell-- does Jeremiah Wright preach?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M-kD0QdRJk&feature=related

And what-- WHAT?-- pray tell... does Michelle Obama say? She says exactly what you might expect of her-- knowing that she's been sitting in those SAME pews... for 20 plus years.... as well! That is WHY, Scott....

that it makes PERFECT SENSE... for Michelle Obama to say...

"for the first time in my adult life... I am proud of my country"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znun3cP3aoA

So basically, Scott.... it took the cheering crowds that SHE SAW... who were cheering for her husband... to make her..... FINALLY.... PROUD... to be an American citizen.

And once you put Obama's pastor... together with Michelle Obama's remarks... and the fact that Obama would not place his hand over his heart when the pledge was being played?

The picture... of WHO... Barrack Obama... really is? It is beginning to fill in the blanks.

He will not win a single COUNTY in Tennessee, Scott.

NOT EVEN ONE.

Scott
04-13-2008, 11:50 PM
[quote]He will not win a single COUNTY in Tennessee, Scott.[/quote}

That is one of the reasons I don't live there.

spintrep
04-14-2008, 12:06 AM
He will not win a single COUNTY in Tennessee, Scott.

NOT EVEN ONE.

Obama Gore '08 (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=obama+gore+ticket&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn)

pixeljockey
04-14-2008, 10:32 AM
Man, that's nothing. Did you hear what Obama said about Elena Dementieva?

OOO! OOO! I heard that on CSPAN! He said
"Wow. That's a face only a racist with very, very strong homosexual tendencies could love - I'm talking about a real self-loather here. Holy shit!"

Sappho
04-14-2008, 11:30 AM
very strong homosexual tendencies

Surly not that...nothing could be worse.

Deanna's Daydreamer
04-15-2008, 04:56 AM
LIES from leftists.

Imagine that.

Hi Top
04-16-2008, 07:48 AM
Who isn't bitter other than the 28-30% that still support this administration?
Bitter:
exhibiting intense animosity <bitter enemies> d (1): harshly reproachful <bitter complaints> (2): marked by cynicism and rancor
What he said makes a hell of a lot of sense.

Wombat
04-16-2008, 08:25 AM
Hell yeah I'm bitter. Now piss off.

Carl Snow
04-16-2008, 05:07 PM
Hell yeah I'm bitter. Now piss off.
seconded and cubed

jsmith
04-16-2008, 08:52 PM
Gee… and I thought one of Obama's selling points was that he was smart.

I'm just hoping he doesn't punish these typical, white, gun-toting, Bible-thumping, xenophobic small town voters with babies.

Imagine the pretense of outrage Team Obama would produce had a white politician drawn a similarly sweeping caricature of blacks.

Hmm, seems the messiah's halo continues to slip.

relentless1
04-16-2008, 09:45 PM
So this is where everyone comes to cuss and smoke. Nice.

And drink...and masturbate (or so I'm told).

thisknoxtown
04-16-2008, 10:45 PM
Wondered if anyone else just saw the debate on ABC. Actually, it seemed more like McCain had Gibson, Stephanrightwinghack and Clinton all there as his proxy.

Lordy, any of you LEFTISTS see it this way?

Total benefit to McCain's campaign. Well, maybe not. Made me finally contribute. Sure I am not the only one. That debate probably raised Obama $4 million.

Not Obama's best night. But ... backlash? If the Clinton loses Penn by less than 10, I say proof these tactics have lost their zing and repubs better re-tool their strategy. And Penn is a closed primary.

binR Bishop
04-16-2008, 11:21 PM
He will not win a single COUNTY in Tennessee, Scott.

NOT EVEN ONE.

Davidson
Shelby

That's two, at least.

Deanna's Daydreamer
04-21-2008, 12:44 AM
Let me tell you something. If Barrack Hussein Obama is the nominee from the left?

You will have people

who have NEVER......

VOTED IN THEIR LIVES.......

getting registered to vote.

I'm perfectly serious. Obama will NOT win Shelby County, and he will NOT win in Nashville either;-- he will go down in FLAMES.

He's your latest Dukakis.

Your newest Mondale.

The left's latest loser.... like George McGovern.

Or Carter attempting to run for re-election.

The left has lost 10 of the last 13 presidential elections, man; they WOULD have lost 11 of the last 13 if Ross Perot had not been running in 1992. Add that to the mix and they would have lost 12 of the last 13 if president Gerald Ford had not pardoned Richard Nixon. Even if you guys ran John Edwards-- by far and away the BEST candidate that you could have run?

Even Edwards would have probably lost the state of Tennesee.

spinetingler
03-15-2009, 02:53 AM
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I have one word for you, leftists: DISASTER.

This guy will step on his d*ck... so badly...

at some point in his debates with John McCain... that the great sucking sound you hear will be 40 million votes going to the right. He's your latest DUKAKIS. Your newest MONDALE, who actually left the country for an 'extended vacation' after the 1984 elections, folks. The guy won his home state and the TOWN... of Washington, DC. Lost every other state.

Obama would never... NEVER... have happened to the RIGHT. Remember when I told you? I told you that the right would send you a candidate that was 'well thought out' and well qualified? John McCain has been a United States Senator... for like 24 years! He will mop up the floor with Obama in a debate, leftists! HE WILL. He will make the guy look silly. But Hillary is smarter than the both of them, and NOW...

RIGHT NOW... is... THE TIME...for leftists in Pennsylvania.... to stop the disaster.

VOTE HILLARY, PENNSYLVANIA!

Have you ever thought about THIS one, Leftists? If... YOU lose this one? "McCain's an old war bird-- a fossil of Vietnam" says one of you; have you thought that he might lead us right into war with IRAN AS WELL? Then you've got war in IRAQ, Afghanistan... AND Iran... and you may as well go ahead and throw Pakistan on the bonfire, leftists! What do you have then? I got news for ya, baby;-- you could have... you COULD HAVE...

(are ya ready?)

a recipe... for WORLD WAR THREE.

This might be.... THE TIME... for FEMININE INTUITION... to save the nation.

The world's OIL... is running OUT. We've got the largest generation... in modern American history... getting ready to retire; they will need medicare and social security. More than ONE THIRD of the federal budget... is going to the national DEBT, and it is RISING! That is just to pay the INTEREST on it! Soon the foreign bankers that have American debt as part of their portfolios will begin to reJECT us.

I got news for ya:

that's a three torpedo hit, mamma... to the MIDLINE HULL... of AMERICA!

We are in serious shit, and the bozos of the left

want to run a 46 year old, one term black male senator from Illinois?

Yeah....good luck with that business model.

Thanks. Didn't need the luck, really.

spinetingler
03-15-2009, 02:55 AM
The picture... of WHO... Barrack Obama... really is? It is beginning to fill in the blanks.

He will not win a single COUNTY in Tennessee, Scott.

NOT EVEN ONE.

Anyone care to post the electoral map for the returning J3?

spinetingler
03-15-2009, 02:59 AM
Let me tell you something. If Barrack Hussein Obama is the nominee from the left?

You will have people

who have NEVER......

VOTED IN THEIR LIVES.......

getting registered to vote.



Yeah, turns out they did - and they voted for Obama.




He's your latest Dukakis.

Your newest Mondale.

The left's latest loser.... like George McGovern.

Or Carter attempting to run for re-election.


yeah, uh, no?


Even if you guys ran John Edwards-- by far and away the BEST candidate that you could have run?

To lock up the adultery vote?

binR Bishop
03-15-2009, 04:20 PM
Hey, spiney, see if you can dig up some of those #9 posts where he makes fun of the "Delaware strategy."